HOW TO: Do edit-While-Ingest with MovieRecorder (Express) and Adobe Premiere Pro CC

MovieRecorder supports edit-while-ingest with Adobe Premiere CS5.5 and later. It is as easy as this: start recording with MovieRecorder, import the file that is being recorded into Adobe Premiere and start editing. Just make sure to follow the guidelines below...

You can also work with growing files in Adobe Premiere with MovieRecorder Express, but not with MXF files, only with a "Classic QuickTime" destination.



Adobe Premiere Pro settings

In the “Media” section of the Adobe Premiere Pro preferences, make sure to:

  • Disable the option "Write XMP ID to Files on Import" and "Write clip markers to XMP". If you fail to do so, Adobe Premiere will modify the file that is already being constantly modified by MovieRecorder and this will corrupt the file.
  • Adobe_PPCC_Pref_Media_XMP.png
  • Enable the option "Automatically Refresh Growing files". And set it to the value that best suits your needs. If you want to be really close to the "Live", you can use something like 10 seconds, but if you want to have less frequent updates (and thus easier on the computer), you can opt for something like 60 seconds.
  • Adobe_PPCC_Pref_Media_Growing.png


MovieRecorder Destinations

In MovieRecorder, you will need to make sure to select either:

  • a QuickTime "Classic" Destination (Adobe Premiere Pro does not support the "Segmented" destinations for growing files. It can read the files created by a segmented destination, but they won't grow).


  • an MXF Destination (Adobe recommends to use MXF destinations for growing files workflows). This only works with MovieRecorder, not with MovieRecorder Express which can not write to MXF.



If you are using MovieRecorder Express, your only option is to use QuickTime Classic.



About the duration of the file


Adobe Premiere behaves differently than Final Cut Pro when you import a Classic file. When you import the file in Adobe Premiere, it will only show only the current recording duration. Even if you import a "Classic" file, Adobe Premiere will ignore the duration that we have set to only show the duration of what has already been recorded and this duration will grow every few seconds when the file grows (the rhythm depends on the refresh interval that you have set in the preferences).

To overcome that behaviour in Adobe Premiere, below are 2 workarounds possible, if you want to have the file showing up with the full duration in your timeline.


!!! IMPORTANT Note: this is kind of a "trick" on how we were able to do that, and that is not officially supported by Adobe Premiere, so it might not be fully functional and we can not guarantee that it will always work. If you would prefer a more official way, get in touch with Adobe and ask them to do it. And if we missed something, please let us know. ;-)


Workaround 1: Create an "Offline File"

Here is how you should proceed:

  • In the project pane, click on the following icon at the bottom right:
  • AdobePPCC_Create.png
  • Then select to create an "Offline File..."
  • AdobePPCC_CreateOffline.png
  • Set the format of your Offline File (use the same format as the one you will use in MovieRecorder)
  • AdobePPCC_NewOfflineFile.png
  • Set the duration of the Offline file to the duration you want.
  • AdobePPCC_NewOfflineFileInfo.png
  • Create a sequence
  • Add the offline file to that sequence. It will show as offline, in red. IMPORTANT: add the offline clip to the sequence BEFORE going to the next step, or it won't work.
  • Select the menu "File > Link Media..."
  • Now you will see that the file in the sequence shows actual footage where available, and 'danger bars' (cross-hatches) for the remainder.


Here is a link to a YouTube video that shows the steps above in video:


Note that you will get better performances if you turn off the "Automatic peak file generation" option:




Workaround 2: Create an XML

Adobe has provided a workaround for this, but it is a bit tricky:

If you create an FCP XML file 'wrapping' (referring to) the growing reference .mov in a sequence of planned capture length, and import that .xml into Premiere, the clip will have the full duration, in the imported sequence. Adobe Premiere will show actual footage where available, and 'danger bars' (cross-hatches) for the remainder.

To generate an XML, the easiest is probably to import a file of the desired duration in Premiere, then add the file to a sequence, and export that sequence as XML. Then open the XML with a text editor and replace the fields indicating the name and path to the file...


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